The Podcast

Subscribe

Podcast 5

December 19, 2008 / No Comments

Podcasts are down for a bit.  They’ll be back.

 

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext
Read More »

Recent 'Casts

Hear them all

The Blog

Subscribe

The Iambic Pentameter Bible #1

James Townsend / January 21, 2010 / No Comments

I’ve decided, for fun, to paraphrase the Bible in a very rough, probably quite bad, iambic perameter (a la something like “Paradise Lost).  Leave a comment and tell me what you think (don’t be too harsh! it was just for fun and I’ve never written in the form before, and it’s first draft!):

Seven Days
 
“Look back, and begin: when the worlds were born of God,
 When no shape held earth, and dark lay upon the deep,
 And sacred spirit did move among the waters,
 
 Then alone did the Father illumine the world with Light,
 And found it good. Dividing from pressing darkness,
 The Light was fashioned day, the darkness night,
     Came the evening and morning, the first of days,
 
 Then alone did the Father speak forth spanning sky,
 A division in the midst, a separation of waters,
 And spanning sky did set apart the waves,
 That which was above, from that below,
 Thus was heaven called, so named by God, 
     Came the evening and morning, second of days,  
                                                                       
 Then alone were the waters gathered unto
 each their given place, receding thus;
 God did make the land to rise from water.
 ”Earth” was dry land named, and seas were formed
 by waters.  And God did see that all was good.
 Green, the grass that grew, the earth gave forth
 its seed, and fruit was born on trees. And all
 these things were good. For God spoke and it was so.
     Came the evening and morning, thirdof days.
 
 The Lord then lifted lights to hang above
 the earth, dividing night from day. He stretched
 them ‘cross the sky for signs and seasons, for days
 and years.  And such a light could light the earth.
 God spoke and it was so:  Two greater lights were made,
 The greater ruled the day, the lesser ruled the
 night, together with the stars. God set them
 in the heavens to shed light upon the land,
 to guide the days and night, and separate
 the darkness from the light. And all these things
 were good. For it was spoken forth by God.
    Came the evening and morning, fourth of days.
 
 Then life was found in waters,in the depths
 of seas was life brought forth. and in the sky
 were living creatures, in the open space of heaven.
 All in sky and sea that moves with the breath of being
 were found to be good by the Ever Living God,
 and He blessed all living things, to fill the earth,
 and waters. That all the world be filled with life.
    Came the evening and morning, fifth of days.
Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext

The Same Old Revolution

James Townsend / January 18, 2010 / 4 Comments

Jay Bakker and I had an exchange on Twitter.  He talks about it here: http://www.revolutionnyc.com/god-crushed-in-haiti/

My response:

Jay, I wouldn’t normally post on here. I understand I can come across as bitter and antagonistic (I very well may be). I’m working on that. But I’m the “lol” guy you mention in your sermon here. I just wanted to maybe clear up my point so we better understand each other.

My main issue in our discussion, or maybe the main point I was trying to make, is that we can’t really speak of natural disasters and their relationship with God, unless you claim to have that authority (as some sort of prophet or such). Nobody’s really in a place to say that God caused or didn’t cause an earthquake, unless they’re claiming a pretty heavy inspiration. All we can do is help those in need.

Allow me to take a minute and explain some of my beliefs: I believe that what happened in the Bible, actually did happen, one way or the other. And we mentioned the flood in the time of Noah. In that time (whether you believe in partial flood or full-earth flood, the situation was the same) there were, I’m sure, varying degrees of people just as there were in Haiti. And God repented of having created this race of humans at all because of what they had become, and decided to wipe them out with a flood. These were real people, I believe. Not a metaphor, not a storybook village. These were people, with families, and worries, and concerns, and mouths to feed, etc. Just like in Haiti or anywhere else. So, what I was trying to point out in our short 140 word maximum conversation ;) is that those who are utterly repulsed by Pat Robertson’s statement have, as far as I can tell (there may undoubtedly be more), at least two options to justify the repulsion: 1) to say that yes, that flood story is true, but it was under a different covenant, and God doesn’t act that way anymore, and 2) that flood story’s just metaphorical and just didn’t happen, or that if it did, we’re reading back into history and doing exactly what Pat Robertson did.

In your Twitter remark, you took the first approach (That was God under the Old Covenant and He no longer judges folks via natural disasters.) (As an aside, I LOL’d that Old Covenant type of thinking, and you wrongly accused me of laughing at the situation in Haiti, which was very uncool of you to do.)

My problem with the “Old Covenant” approach is, A: It makes God pretty freaking temporally bipolar, and B: It patronizes, so to speak, people of ancient times. For example, this conversation in Heaven: “Oh, Joe Adamite, huh? You died in the flood? Man, that’s terrible. I wish you’d been born a thousand years later, ’cause then God mellowed out a whole lot and stopped killing people.” Is this clear at all? I hope I’m adequately communicating my issue with this point.

And if people really do have such a revulsion against a God who would cause an earthquake today, then I think they should have an equal revulsion for a God who caused a flood centuries ago. Do we need to have a corporate “Forgiving of God” to clear this up? Jesus even mentions Noah, and says that in the last days it’ll be like people were in the time of Noah. He didn’t say “and while we’re talking about it, let’s take some time to talk about how God isn’t really like that.” Peter mentions Noah, and doesn’t take an opportunity to clear up God’s pancake flipping nature, either. So I have to go with the truth that an unchanging God has corporately judged and punished people before. I’m just not saying that that’s the case in Haiti.

::takes a moment to realize the utter hopelessness of getting his point across here::

My problem with the second point is a lot shorter: I just believe that the Noahic flood is a historical fact, and that it was in fact initiated by God.

Do I believe that this is God’s judgment on Haiti? No. Do I believe that Pat Robertson has even the smallest lick of sense? No. I’m just not getting as repulsed as others at the thought that God would judge nations and people through physical material means like this. I can find no theory (such as the “Old Covenant New Covenant”) that could support otherwise.

In response to Pat, I CANNOT say that “That’s disgusting God would NEVER do that!” ‘Cause, He kinda did, whether He does anymore or not. That’s all I was saying.

It seems like your problem is a God who would do something like the flood in our time. But honestly, could you really follow a God who had EVER done something like what just happened in Haiti? He did, if you believe the Bible, with the flood, and with using armies and other nations to punish each other, as if soldiers and kings were pawns in God’s sovereign plan. If that stopped with the “New Covenant”. . . I mean, that doesn’t NEGATE that HE DID IT in the past. Right?

I’m not asking redundant questions. I’d love to talk with you about it. You’re right, theology can make us jackasses, and I saw that we were both going that way with our conversation, and I think we both chose to end it at a time before it got out of hand.

But I just can’t agree with you on this Old Covenant/New Covenant deal, although I do agree that we look at the scriptures through Christ.

And man, for trying to heal my own bitterness, I sure do wish you didn’t talk about our conversation with the kind of superior tones you used in this sermon.

I mean, you seem to have been really offended at my LOL. I was laughing because I find the Old Covenant theory lacking in foundation. That didn’t bear on how I feel about Haiti. It was a sidenote. A chuckle. And in return I got accused of being pretty much heartless. If you want, can you send me a list of how many times and what I can LOL at during this tragedy? Can I eat cheeseburgers, or maybe just cabbage and bitter tea? Are we doing the sackcloth and ashes thing? I mean, people are dying still: have you sold your ipod or phone or shoes or found a cheaper place to live to donate more? Why are you not down there???? (Before I’m ONCE AGAIN misinterpreted, I’m pointing out that we’re gonna LOL through tragedy. Doesn’t mean we don’t care, it’s just part of who we are. I know a lot of folks who feel bad about Haiti but are still LOLing and going to the movies.)

I’ll share an observation with you. You’re all about restoring hope, love, acceptance, this and that. But you’re not very respectful when it comes to folks who disagree with you. I found that out pretty damn quick. We would have had a much more civil conversation, I feel like, or at least I for one would not be so bitter towards you in my heart, if you would have not attacked my compassion or where I was coming from for a simple “lol.”

If I’ve misinterpreted you, I’m sorry. And I do the same thing to others, so I bear the same lashes. But I just felt incredibly misrepresented by you and felt you were really condescending.

You’ve got my email if you wanna talk further. I’m not gonna be visiting this page anymore. And I’m takin’ ya off my twitter.

Take it or leave it. Cheers.

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext

FTW

James Townsend / January 15, 2010 / No Comments

Tony Jones and Piratechristian Twitter Exchange

I mean, number 1, why get all outta sorts ’cause someone says “impactful?”  And, number 2, Pirate Christian gets the win, ’cause it certainly is a pot/kettle situation.

FTW.

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext

Pat Robertson and Satan’s Pact

James Townsend / January 14, 2010 / No Comments

Tags , ,

Aside from how cool a band name that would make, gonna talk a bit about this new “Haiti’s earthquake is God’s judgment” deal going on w/ Pat Robertson.

First off, I think it’s utterly contemptible we even have to talk about it. There’s really only one reason I feel ok talking about it, but I’m not gonna disclose why that is.

Ok.

So, there’s this earthquake in Haiti. Then Pat Robertson, apparently, is like, “This is God’s judgment or wrath because the people of Haiti entered into a pact with Satan.”

I’m on Twitter @ work (because I can’t get on Facebook anymore, and I need some sort of social networking outlet), and I see tons of the emergent types posting about Haiti. Then, as this Pat Robertson stuff comes out, more and more of the trends go toward Robertson, and less is said about Haiti.

And eventually, folks like Tony Jones (infamous emergent author, speaker, production manager, etc.) are saying “let’s make this PatRobertsonDoesNotSpeakForGod thing a trend on Twitter!” And that quick, it all quickly takes the focus off the events in Haiti.

People started repeating slogans like: “Pat Robertson does not speak for God.” “Pat Robertson does not speak for Jesus.” “Jesus would have handled it differently!” etc.

And all that brought these points to mind, regarding the Robertson fiasco:

1. While it may be true that Pat Robertson does not speak for God, neither does Jay Bakker (who was one of the folks posting that Twitter trend). To me, Pat Robertson speaks for God at least as much as Jay Bakker or Tony Jones does. That’s what bothers me about these folks. They make equally shocking claims on the liberal theological side as Robertson and company do on the more “conservative” side, yet they get real rigid in responses to Robertson’s statements. So in the end you have: “Gays can be Christians!” (Jay Bakker doesn’t speak for God!) and “Haiti is God’s judgment!” (Pat Robertson doesn’t speak for God). It’s just a frighteningly funny circle of who does and who doesn’t speak for God. Not saying that some conclusion can’t be reached (perhaps neither speak for God?), it’s just a little funny.

2. “Jesus would’ve handled it differently!” That may be the case, but I’m still not sure he would’ve handled it in the way that Baker, Jones and crew would expect. In fact, we have an example in the gospels about Jesus’ reaction and response to a calamity. When Pilate kills Galileans and mingles their blood with the sacrifices, they ask Jesus what’s up with that, and his answer is noticeable: first, he doesn’t address the disaster at all, but instead turns the question back on them and says, “Unless you repent, the same is gonna happen to you.” Wow. What if we said that in response to people asking us about the Haiti incident? “What do you think, as a Christian, about the Haiti earthquake?” “Well, unless you repent, the same may happen to you.” Isn’t that closer to Robertson’s statement than the emerging liberals?

3. Is the earthquake a judgment from God? This is what people are blasting Pat for right now. But my response is not instant repulsion. My only response is, that I doubt Pat Robertson has the authority to make such a certain claim. But, unless you deny the validity of the Bible, many times God uses other nations to chastise Israel (which resulted in the death and enslavement of many). This is the same God who was so repentant over the sinfulness of man that he flooded the earth, and saved only Noah and his family from the total destruction. So, unless you hold that these stories are symbols, metaphors, etc. and stop there, then we do serve a God who has at times used natural, earthly, physical things as judgments. So I’m not repulsed by Robertson’s statement. I’m not sure that he has the authority to say something like that, and you can’t just go around saying that about every disaster.

There’s just three random things that are going through my mind right now. Probably shoddily thrown together because I’m writing this and watching Dog Bounty Hunter at the same time.

Oh well.

Take it as it is

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext

The Soul of a Clown

James Townsend / January 14, 2010 / No Comments

Tags ,

“I see myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being, with the soul of a clown, which forces me to blow it at the most important moments.” – Jim Morrison

I’ve always felt that this quote by Jim Morrison aptly described me. 

I’m a pot-stirrer.  I’ve tried to fix this in times past, but I’m not even so sure it’s something that should be fixed.  Maybe that’s just who I am.  But I’ve noticed that, although I may take my faith very seriously, I’m able to laugh about a whole lot that other folks can’t really laugh at, and often times I’ll say things just to stir the pot, or point out something that I think is inconsistent.

But I end up blowing it, a lot of the time. At the moment, the most important moment, as Morrison says, I’ll end up saying something or cracking a joke which “forces me to blow it.”

Do I sabotage myself?  I’m not sure. 

But sometimes it makes me look like a hypocrite.

Take this Pat Robertson business.  I could care less about what Pat Robertson has to say about something.  But it’s everywhere I look.  And everyone’s so disgusted and pissed that he could even think that an earthquake could be the result of a judgment of God.

But then I think, wasn’t a worldwide food in Genesis a result of a judgment of God?  To think that earthly calamities are above God’s realm of communication is kind of like the first step on a long road of biblical denial. 

But anyway, I make strong claims, and then folks assume I agree with Pat Robertson.  But when I say that I don’t agree with him, they must assume that I agree with his “opponents” on the issue.

And I don’t agree with them either. 

I don’t know.

I think I’m just going to keep making statements to which people reply “I don’t get what your saying.”

And I’ll blow it.

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext

The “Oh, Pat” Rant

James Townsend / January 13, 2010 / 1 Comment

Tags , , ,

I find it ironic how so many folks jump on board when it comes to caring about a natural disaster (i.e. the situation in Haiti, right now), and then get so enormously distracted.  First, I see on my Twitter about how everyone has these links and blogs and ideas about ways to send money to Haiti to help out, or to do something else in order to pitch in.

Then Pat Robertson says something about God being responsible for it, and all of a sudden, Haiti and the earthquake are lost among Christians stepping up to make sure we’re not mistaken for the likes of Pat Robertson.

We Christians are so damn concerned about our image….our image… that we care more about Twitter trending topics like #PatRobertsonDoesntSpeakForMe than we are about helping out in the situation.

Do you think the countless dust-covered, bloody people in Haiti care right now about what Pat Robertson’s saying?  C’mon, this guy’s been spouting this kind of stuff for years: every time something bad happens, folks like him are gonna chime in. Have you not noticed the pattern yet?

Just laugh it at, or whatever you want to do, and then go about your way.

If you really care about all those suffering people, my dear, emerging, caring Christian, stop fussing over how you look in the moral mirror, shut up about Pat Robertson, and do something.

When folks asked Jesus about a recent disaster, his only reply was “Unless you change your way of life, you’ll all end up like that!” You’ll likewise perish.

So, his response wasn’t so compassionate as you may like it to be, either.

Consider these things.  And shut up about Pat Robertson.

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext

Avatar

James Townsend / January 13, 2010 / No Comments

Tags

Saw Avatar a few weeks ago.  A visually enjoyable movie, and a pretty on par story.  By “on par,” I mean “average.”  It’s not stellar.

I didn’t want to see the film, initially. I thought there was too much Eastern influence (I hate, hate, hate anime and manga, and all things like that, so blue people with pointy ears just don’t size up, in my book). But when I found out it was in 3D I decided to check it out.  And it was somewhat enjoyable.  The marine in charge, the old guy: I’ve liked him since “Gods and Generals” and “Gettysburg.”  So it wasn’t all bad.

Here’s my thing, though: When are we going to stop glorifying primitive stick throwing cultures just because they’re primitive stick-throwing cultures, and when are we going to stop demonizing industrial cultures just because they’re industrial cultures?  On one level, even though I did enjoy the movie, I was sick of seeing yet another movie with traditional “Industry Bad, Loincloths Good” themes.

Just because this culture worships trees and doesn’t have spaceships, they’re seen as inherently better, and more wholesome than more advanced civilizations.  Just because you wear a leather loincloth and have a bow instead of a gun does not make you inherently more “in tune” with nature. 

I read a news piece where the Vatican was saying some of the same things, especially that the movie seemed to glorify some kind of environmental neo-paganism, which I can see.  There’s a scene in the movie where they’re swaying back and forth before a big tree to try and bring some woman back to life.  Extreme example of pagan nature religions.  2 things:  1. people who really do worship trees in real life, aren’t as glamorous as they are in 3D on an alien planet, and 2. when these people worship trees in real life, nothing happens.

I read in a report that some people were even depressed and (gasp! really?!) suicidal after watching Avatar, because the images were so beautiful that folks are feeling a lack in their lives after seeing it.  I think that’s glorifying creation a little too much.  What I don’t understand is, there’s a LOT of beautiful things on this earth: I’m sure you’ve seen pretty pictures on slide shows at work of waterfalls and islands and such. 

Well, right now, we’re all way too lazy to take advantage of what we do have.  What if the folks who are depressed about this fantasy land actually did have floating mountains and tame flying birds and trees that lit up – - would they actually go out and see them? I mean, you do understand that when Blue Guy climbs to the top of the floating mountains, he was really out of breath, right? So, unless you’re marine-fit, I doubt you’d take advantage of those floating mountains…. You’d be too out of shape. 

So if you’re down about how we don’t have memory-trees and floating mountains, I suggest you go, I don’t know, see a waterfall or something.  Or you can just trash our planet on a forum somewhere and finish your Cheetos and lament that we’re not blue-skinned, 8 foot tall savages.

But yeah, those themes are questionable.

Here’s what I would’ve liked to have seen:  some kind of redemption of the industrial folks.  The human protagonist getting his own legs back and living as a full, whole, human being.  Some kind of spirituality beyond oneness-trees.

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext

Christmas

James Townsend / December 25, 2009 / No Comments

Consider “Jesus is the reason for the season!”

For those who follow Jesus, shouldn’t he be our reason in every season?  He wants all of you. He doesn’t just want your church attendance on Christmas and Easter (in my old church we called those people “Chreasters.” Get it?)

He wants you 24/7, 365 days a year.

I hear my fellow Christians lament, “Christmas doesn’t mean anything anymore, we need to put the Christ back into Christmas.”

Brothers and sisters, nobody has taken Christ out of Christmas but us.  Nobody can take Christ out of Christmas but us. We Christians are often times our own worst enemies. We have made it about something else. The materialistic, greedy world will do what it always has, and spin the wheel of fortune and profit for as long as it spins on this earth.  It’s up to Christians to show another way. A different road. And at this, we’ve failed miserably in recent history.  We go right along with all the commercialism, selfishness, rush, and “get-aheadness.”

Christmas is a religious holiday. People are getting mad about others saying “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas.” Whatever you want to say, that’s fine. But it doesn’t anger me when the clerk at the grocery store doesn’t say “Merry Christmas.” In fact, I only say “Merry Christmas” to my fellow Christians that I know at least in part.  I don’t avoid saying to the Joe on the street out of some notion of tolerance or not wanting to step on toes, but rather out of reverence for Christmas itself.

I don’t want the holy day where I celebrate the birth of the Savior to be whiddled down to a jolly ole’ time where a clerk hands me my receipt and says “Merry Christmas!”

On Easter, for instance, a traditional saying is, “He is risen!” (Followed by, “He is risen indeed!”)  Now, I don’t say that to everyone I see on Easter Sunday. I only say it to my fellow Christians, who I know share in the joy of Jesus’ resurrection.

So I think we’re taking Christ out of Christmas by making it a less reverent holiday. By making it more about toys, kids, gifts, and Santa than about the birth of a Savior. Thing should progressively slow down as Christmas approaches, but instead things intensely speed up.   And we’re all buying into this corporate pace.  Christmas for most people is about nothing but selfishness and corruption.

Christians are the ones responsible for taking Christ out of Christmas.  No one else could’ve done it. It’s not about us putting our foot down and lifting our heads defiantly and saying confidently, “Merry Christmas.”  We’ll do that, sure, but we still take part in the same things that support the rush and insanity of a secular, anti-gospel Christmas.

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext

Bible Reading #1

James Townsend / November 23, 2009 / No Comments

Tags , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

My wife and I are going through the Bible together, starting at the beginning.  As we’re doing this, I thought it would be interesting to post any questions or reflections here.  I started doing this a while back, but here I’ll be including both mine and my wife’s reflections. 

We don’t hold back: if we find something striking, beautiful, ugly, senseless, etc.  no matter what, we let ourselves reflect and ask questions.

Sunday we read the first 11 chapters of Genesis together.

Right off the bat, we felt like the tone of the Creation stories vary from the initial 7-day creation to the more specific creation of mankind and the placing of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden.  I do know that most folks maintain today that these are two separate Creation myths, and you can clearly see the distinction. 

Is the serpent really a talking snake? Did the original authors and tellers of the story of Eden see it completely as metaphor?  I don’t think so, because part of the curse after the eating of the fruit is that the snake will crawl around on its belly.  Now I think we can glean some metaphorical images out of the whole scenario, but I think that, at its original conception, the story treated the snake as a real, live, talking snake.

We were struck at the imagery of God regretting he had made mankind and deciding to flood the earth and kill every living creature.  First off, we’re so flooded today (no pun intended) with images of God’s temporal omnipotence that we cannot see any sensible way where he would regret something.  Now we can say that this is just a human view imposed on God for our own understanding. But again, like the deal with the snake, I think at the time, God’s omnipotence may have been less of a concept than it is today: I think the people of that time really thought God got mad and regretted creating mankind.

Is this possible? Can God really regret something? I think that if God truly, truly regrets, and feels things like regret and remorse in the way that we do, then it opens up new doors onto the nature of who God is. But, being that we Christians usually hold that God knows and even ordains the future, such a God couldn’t really be taken by surprise in order to experience regret, could He?

I do think there may have been a flood in the geographical area of the Bible at that time.  It’s possible.  It’s even possible that there was an extremely large, perhaps, earth-covering flood.  I really don’t know.

But I what I surmise happened is, there was a disastrous flood, that stamped itself into the minds of the people at that time, and various stories cropped up, the story of Noah being one of them.  And then folks started trying to figure out why the flood happened.  And they came up with: God was angry about something.

Happens often enough.

That’s my take on the Noah Story right now.

The same kind of retro-active story telling (creating stories to talk about events that have happened) is also present, I think, in the story of Noah’s sons and their father’s nakedness.

I don’t think any kind of nakedness today can amount to cursing your child and all of his descendants, no matter what he walked in, and walked out, on.

Instead, I think that at the time of the story, the Canaanites, or Caananites, however you spell it, were viewed by the Hebrews as low-lifes.  So they create this story about how and why these people are so worthless.

Another Retro-Story.

Alright.  I believe I can see the Tower of Babel in the distance.

Until next time.

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext

Thoughts While Driving To Work Today

First off, I think Deepak Chopra gives me my Wendy’s breakfast order every morning. 

Well.  Probably not THE Deepak Chopra.  But this guy looks just like him. 

*  *   *

The myriad disagreements between Christians struck me this morning during my drive through the cold drizzle of this gray Saturday.  

This was probably because I passed my old Lutheran church.  They’ve been going through some drama because of the “gay issue” in their denomination.  Apparently the ELCA has approved the ordination of gay bishops.  Although I’m not too sure.  I’m no longer in the loop on such things, so that’s not gospel truth.  But at any rate, there has been some controversy in that denomination over the “gay question.” 

The church that I belonged to was in complete and total opposition to its denomination’s choice to favor gay ordination or whatnot.  So the huge sign for the church outside received a wide black box right over the word “Lutheran,” so that when you drove by, you’d see “St. Timothy [BLACK BOX] Church.”  

After a while, they removed the black box, and instead, put a little banner under the word “Lutheran” that said “Reclaiming the Name!” 

Now, even that banner is gone.  So they’re just back to plain old Lutheran.  I’m sure their positions on the matter are the same, but they’ve, for whatever reason, decided to remove the banner and black box. 

As I passed that church on the way to work today, I thought about how many things there are that Christians disagree on, and how that disagreement, on each and every side, is firmly rooted in that side’s view of Christ.

We’re all so convinced about what Jesus was all about. 

You say you follow Jesus. 

Which one? 

There are so many.

There’s Orthodox Jesus, Catholic Jesus, Calvinist Jesus, Emergent Jesus, Bono Jesus, Che Jesus, Obama Jesus, Bush Jesus, TBN Jesus, Christian Identity Jesus, Black Baptist Jesus, Anglican Jesus…

Each Jesus has so many points of agreement with another.  But there’s also a lot of disagreement.

There’s a Jesus today who extends not only open arms, but fully affirming and accepting arms, to practicing homosexuals today.  The Jesus who does this has very sincere and authentic followers.

There’s also a Jesus who is quite convinced that homosexuals are hell-bound and are walking displays of the reality of sin in this world. 

There’s even a Jesus who disapproves of consuming any amount of alcohol, even a glass of wine with dinner. 

And then there’s a Jesus who is an avid beer afficianado, who whole-heartedly approves of a good German brew.

Without ignoring what all these Jesus’ have in common, you can’t deny the differences. 

You can’t deny that the church as a whole may be hopelessly shattered, divided by very important doctrinal differences.

Which Jesus do you follow?

“The one from the Bible,” you say.

Well, funny thing about that….

There are just as many Bibles as there are Jesus’.  And each one is backed up by tradition and the commentary of that tradition’s scholars or elders.

I don’t really see where the Christian church has ever had much agreement or unity.  It probably began seeing divisions right after the time of Paul (if not during). 

And I have no idea which Jesus it is that I follow.

Like this post? Share it with others:
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • MySpace
  • Live
  • StumbleUpon
  • ThisNext